Nostradamus strikes again. Google "Obama", "Antichrist", 2012... and I predict you will get a massive number of hits.
There are circulating on the worldwide web some really idiot but also possibly dangerous rumours, featuring Nostradamus, Barack Obama, Antichrist III and the End of the World (2012). The theories are extremely idiot, undoubtedly. But they get extremely dangerous too when you think of the idiots who might be taking some action, just because of that sort of rumours. They create "Osama Obama Shotgun Pool" in Maine, because they just KNOW Obama is the AntiChrist (his name rhymes with Osama, says Mister Arkwriter)! And then there are video's like this one:
Take the last two letters from "Obama" and the first three of "Bush" and you get "Mabus". Some self-declared experts say that "Mabus" is the name of the guy who, according to the 16th century prophet Nostradamus, would be the third Antichrist (after Pau Nay Oloron who was Napoleon, and Hister who was Hitler).
Now, I don't understand why Obama has to be the Antichrist. Why it can't be George W. Bush? Or, for that matter, Osama bin Laden... You'll get also a "Mabus" if you combine the names "Osama" and "Bush"! Okay, Osama or George W. Bush are not living in Chicago and Barack Obama is! And what is the zipcode of Chicago? 60606! Eliminate the zero's and you get 666, the Number of the Beast! It's that simple, really.
There is only one minor problem with the whole theory: Nostradamus has never said a Mr. Mabus will be the Antichrist. In Century 2, Quatrain 62 he states that "when Mabus will die", there will be "a horrible undoing of people and animals". That's all, folks.
Interesting footnote in the Mabus=Antichrist Hoax: the former Governor of Mississippi, Ray Mabus, served in the Clinton era as U.S. ambassador to Saudi Arabia, and is working now as Obama's adviser on Middle Eastern issues. This leads other Nostradamiacs to speculate about the assassination of Mr. Mabus, working somewhere in the Middle East in the Obama administration, which could fuel a horrible counter-attack by Obama. Quatrain 62 mentions "a vengeance" and "a comet", and of course this comet has to be the nuclear missile that will start the Final Countdown to an apocalyptic World War III!
Still not convinced that Nostradamus tells you Bad Shit Will Happen when Obama goes to the White House? Okay, then listen to this argument... Barack Obama would be the first Black President in the White House, am I right or am I right? And who is described as "black in attribute"? The Man in Black, Johnny Cash? Yeah, but he is no longer among us... The Men in Black, coming from Outer Space? No, my dear friends, let the aliens out of it and let's talk about Satan, who will now take over the White Mansion, known as Heaven! He will be there until 2012, and who said the world would end in 2012? Nostradamus, indeed!
There is only one minor problem with this theory... During the nineties, you could read everywhere that, according to Nostradamus, the world would come to an end in 1999: "In the year 1999 and seven months, from the sky will come a great and frightening King." In his book The Complete Prophecies of Nostradamus, published in 1999, Ned Halley stated that the Apocalyps didn't need to be a military one. It also could be "industrial competition from booming China, a new flu epidemic similar to the catastrophic pandemic of 1918 (...) or revolution against the Communist regime (of China)."
There was the usual bad shit happening, but did there some really Very Bad & Apocalyptic Shit happen? In China? In 1999? No, it did not. And why not? Well, Nostradamus simply didn't see Apocalyptic Bad Shit happen in 1999. He didn't see it in 2012 either. His prophecies go to 3797!
Did Nostradamus see the nearly Apocalyptic Bad Shit of 9/11 happen then? No, he did not. The famous quatrain attributed to him, about a "great thunder" that would be heard in the "City of God", with "two brothers torn apart by Chaos" and a "third big war" that would begin when "the big city was burning", was invented by a college student. Neil Marshall was his name and he wanted to demonstrate how a Nostradamus-like quatrain could be interpreted in so many ways as there were interpreters.
Did Nostradamus predict the election of Barack Obama, the first Black President in the White House? Professor Eugene Randell, Deputy Director of the Smithsonian Institution Archives, declared that the Institute was holding some very rare Nostradamus manuscripts. One previously unreleased quatrain spoke about a "great empire" that would be "torn from limb" and a "great power given to the dark one from slaves come". The lines were eagerly copied and pasted on numerous blogs and websites, but all these "believers" forgot to mention (or didn't know) that the original article was published by "The Daily Squib", the World's Finest (Satirical) News Source.
Professor Eugene Randell did not exist and the previously unreleased quatrain definitely was a hoax.
This is so poorly written. What is your actual point? If it's an attempt to score some points by inducing fear in people then you must be Satan yourself. Write it in your mother language to people that might understand waht you are actually trying to say. Or better still, get a job as a barista.
#2 by A dude Nov 11, 2008
I mean why are you even bothering to expose this video. Surely the less people that know about it the better. I see you've attracted some spam in the first comment, or is that you hiding behind a veil?
Hey dude, are you serious? "There are circulating on the worldwide web some really idiot but also possibly dangerous rumours, featuring Nostradamus, Barack Obama, Antichrist III and the End of the World (2012)." - Can't you read a sentence that simple? Okay, I must admit, it is extremely poorly written, but still... (*)
(*) The barista (hiding behind the veil of A dude) said it sure wasn't his cup of coffee!
#5 by Lauren Axelrod Nov 11, 2008
I'm all for stories about codes and the end of the word but, you have to watch the facts and the quotes. Keep the vulgarities out of the written word and the message will come across a bit more clearly.Interesting read and great research.
#6 by edgar Nov 18, 2008
I produced the video above..
btw thanks for the plug.
The video never mentions obama being the antichrist..if you actually watch and keep the judging to a minimum, your lil brain will tell you that the video says \\\"the next president will PRESIDE over the coming of the antichrist\\\" not BE the antichrist.
You are correct however about the 1sat quatraint about the \\\"city of god\\\"..it wasn\\\'t written by nostra and i have not changed it since i was made aware.
If everyone would just take a moment and turn off that bright box called the TV and start making judgments of your own and not what some guy in a suit tells you, maybe we all wouldn\\\'t be such gullable sheep. Think alittle bit bigger..question everything you hear, don\\\'t accept it... they want you to be ignorant, obedient people influenced and swayed with no anchor..lol you get it
You know Its interesting that scripture writes that the antichrist will be a great man of peace that will encapsulate all and unite us as one...
#7 by edgar Nov 18, 2008
oh and one more thing..
the openiing of your rant focuses on the video and ideas in the video as "dangerous"...?
who exactly is in danger?
you..me..Obama?
cmon man, the real danger is not from nostradamus and his puzzle of prophecies..the danger is the unwillingness of people to examine all information not just those handed to us nice and neat on a silver platter..
None of the quatrains you mention in the video was written by Nostradamus, there are a few hoaxes in your video and some racist White Power ficton. It isn\'t Nostradamus who has said that the world will come to an end in 2012, and Nostradamus hasn\'t said a \"Mabus\" will be the Antichrist. The quatrain \"Nostradomus\" (sic) never has written about \"the great empire torn from limb\" and \"the dark one from slaves come\" (Obama didn\'t come from slaves), is set over an Obama picture... Your video is misleading, untrue, sick and not even well researched. But when you read the forums and the blogs, there are obviously many morons who believe this nonsense. They don\'t check your so-called \"information\", they are the ignorant and obedient people you are LOL-ling about, they don\'t \"question everything you hear\". So, your video is not only based on pure nonsense and racist stupidities, it\'s dangerous too.
There isn't a word of Nostradamus in the "prophecies" your video is about. So, what are you saying now? That you have made a video with these so-called "Nostradamus prophecies" in it, to open the eyes of "the ignorant people", unwilling to examine all information, "not just those handed to us nice and neat on a silver platter"?
What we all need to remember is that nothing is ever set in stone. In fact, the calendar of the ancient pyramids predicts that this event won\'t take place for another several hundred years. So, it really is just a matter of opinion on the whole 2012 issue. In fact according to the calendar of the pyramids this will all happen in the year 2979. Their calendar system is accurate and very prophetic.
What we need to remember is that all destiny is dynamic in nature.
For more info on the pyramid calendars read my article Interesting and Ironic Facts About The Great Pyramids of Egypt. Patrick is right in his conclusions.
#11 by Tom Dockery Nov 18, 2008
Obama is no such thing.At century's end,he will be a footnote while Palin will be a giant.In 2012,African-Americans will again be chanting:"Let the brother go".He will be the Willie Randolph of the Presidency.In 2028,we'll be seeing him shooting hoops on the South Side,reminding people of the images of Herbert Hoover fishing in the 1950's.
#12 by edgar Nov 19, 2008
Its sad that you think this video is racist in anyway shape or form. There is not an ounce of racism towards any culture, race, or group. It may be the case that u are substituting ur own biggoted thoughts upon my vid. Save ur useless banter about racism for your 7 oclock poli sci class.
Also, please again refrain from adding things to the video that arent there. I say the world will CHANGE in 2012, not END..are u a freshman \\\"journalist\\\".
All the quatraints are NOT false. After further research, it is true that two of the quatraints are false, but the rest are all accurate. please refer to the following..
Century V1 quatraint 97
Century 1, Quatraint 87
http://www.nostradamus.org/qbrowser.php
Read it then tell me ALL of the quatraints are false.
I just think ur a scared Nostradamus hater lol
Most all of the nostradamus \\\"scholars\\\" believe that Mabus is the name of the predicted anti christ..the following are the only quatraints about Mabus..
Century 2 quatraint 62
Century 8 quatraint 77
I\\\'m not saying obama is the antichrist, or bush, or even you..
i am saying however that at a time when we have all fallen yet again for a promise of \\\"change\\\" we should not be afraid to have opinions different than what is expected.
i think you need to wake up and realize that no one becomes president unless the \\\"big boys\\\", who have been running our country since the beginning, say so. How does a man who has been in govt for less than 4 years raise the most money EVER in campaign history to run for president of the highest office and have every american and the media on his nuts to pull off a huge victory..Oh yeah, its just the american dream right..yeah
all the sheep crying for joy in Chicago like those little cult like followers..u think we are becoming a less racist country because we have an african am pres..ur living an illusion.
keep beleiving the nonescence just like you believed wmd in iraq, like you believed arabs attacked us on 9/11..like you beleive that the our pres elections aren\\\'t manipulated, that we are not killing 20 year old kids everyday in Iraq and afghanistan for NO REASON!
Just keep thinking everything that box tells you is true. You\\\'ll be just fine..
Listen, my little video that has caused you so much uproar and that is so dangerous to black people? obama?..who knows is just an expression of my opinion. the video might have its flaws but it is NOT racist nor dangerous..so get off it.
Oh... ALL the quatrains are not false? "After further research" you have to admit that two of them are false, okay... but not all of them! And you, no doubt, will tell us which quatrains are false, which quatrains are bad translations of the old French and which are true, oh yeah! And we all have to believe you, right!... Now I'm LOL-ling, my friend! - By the way, your allegation of me being "a scared Nostradamus hater" set me LOL-ling again. Wrote a couple of books about the man and his work, but, of course, you're the expert here, as everyone can see! (You undoubtedly read also Nostradamus' old French?)
#14 by edgar Nov 19, 2008
So do you even believe nostradamus wrote prophecies..please, if all of the quatraints are false, share some that arent mr "i wrote a book on nostradamus" LOL..
Thats fine..be a hater..
just don't call me a racist.
#15 by Ronald Nov 20, 2008
I dont know who these idiots are but I agree with 99% of what you said. All of these prophecies are absolutely absurd and it seems like our world just can't accept the fact that Barack "Hussein" Obama is our new president. They claim to be patriots and have pride in their country, yet they don't believe the simple constitutional value that all men are created equal and every man or woman has the same opportunity regardless of their differences. I'm glad to say that my kids and grandkids will soon live in a generation where bigotry will become a figment of the past. I'm disspointed in human nature and the lack of values these people have. Your fear mongering won't work anymore. Have a good night folks.
#16 by Ronald Nov 20, 2008
ps. that was the absolute worst video I've ever seen, lol. Can you even interpret those quatrains. I've studied his books for years and it took me this long to realize he was a complete sham. YOU ARE IGNORANT AND RACIST!!!!!!!!!!!!haha
To Edgar: The "further research" you've done didn't go further than the first page you googled with "nostradamus", "obama" and "antichrist". The quatrains you promote as true - but are truly false (what you had to admit)- are promoted there on some freaky White Power racist sites (no, I'm not going to link that trash here) as if they were true. You are using the same false arguments as those racist guys, so don't come and tell me you're no racist. You've simply copy/pasted their "theory" without checking their sources (and you didn't have to be a professor or to write books about Nostradamus to find out that one of his "prophecies" was invented by the satiral Daily Squib and another by a college student - it's all there on the first page of Google!) - "The danger is the unwillingness of people to examine all information not just those handed to us nice and neat on a silver platter.." Just quoting you, Edgar, and this is perfectly what you did: not "examine alle information". So here you go again, making MY point - I honestly want to thank you for that, 'cause you say it yourself, now: people like you ARE dangerous. And they are, indeed. Because people like you do believe the NonSense people like you copy/paste from racist sites. Or are you going to tell me now that White Power or the Ku Klux Klan are not racist, really? Are not dangerous, really? Just cosy socializing guys and dolls who like to dress up, wearing funny masks?
#18 by edgar Nov 20, 2008
Im not saying my video is true or false...it is made from pure curiousity and bordom..it is not meant to be taken as fact and is made for entertainment, its funny to me to see you bumble around and get all bent out of shape about a video i made for fun...and it is absolutely not racist.
But in this article, you create racism by trying to revive it, to make yourself feel like you are better for recognizing such a \"racist\" video as the above. Give me a break, the video has nothing to do with race. You feel better about yourself to categorize it as racist. You are shameful.
Always twisting everything into being about race. The last card to pull.
If you truely are not a racist, then why make the automatic assumption that obama might be the anti christ just because of the color of his skin.. this video does not imply that. and you have created it in your mind.
On to the \"silver platter comment\". I rarely call someone a moron but i must in your case. The information that is being handed to us on a silver platter doesnt refer to the info from this video..i hardly have any influence from a 2 min you tube video that has got you so hot and bothered.
Its the deceptive information you get from all your little news shows and websites and slanted papers. Everything you know to be absolute fact, the ones you never questioned or thought twice about. That real information!not the face that obama and bush make the word mabus hahaha...
And so now I\'m white power. And I support them right lol You must have been bumped as a child.
As a matter of fact i voted for obama and live in southern cali and even believe that everyone has a right to marry.
Hows that for white power. Get off it dude. I don\'t know how old you are but you sound like a little child calling names.
To go as far as to call me a white power supporter because i made a video saying that obama is going to be president when the supposed anti christ comes to earth. Get off it.
I wonder where ur from..alabama perhaps..
\"You\'re never alone with a schizophrenic!\" (It\'s Ian Hunter who said that.) By the way, thanks for making my point again! And, as a matter of fact, Nostradamus is not a 15th century guy, as you said in your video, this production made out of boredom and just for fun with the desinformation you copy/pasted from White Power sites. He was born in 1503, so he is a 16th century guy. You didn\'t even bother to check the basic facts... But okay, you\'ve made a comedy, entirely based on false facts, sort of parody, sort of Monty Python and the Holy Grail thing... and I am just to dumb to see that. You really are extremely funny when you\'re serious, you know that? Wondering if I\'m from Alabama... Simply check my profile and you will read there that I\'m living in good old little Belgium. Muscles from Brussels. But okay, checking the basic facts of a story isn\'t what your good at. Making insinuations, that\'s your thing.
So, now you are telling me you have made a sort of mockumentary instead of \"a documentary about the startling connections between the 15th century prophet Nostradamus and 9/11, Barack Obama, Bush, and the november elections\" (your words, on your YouTube Channel). - \"Read it then tell me ALL of the quatraints are false.\" (your words again, in the comments here). Are you speaking here about a \"mockumentary\"? No, you are not. So, what HAVE you produced, Mister Metro? A documentary or a mockumentary?
Last but not least, of course I can prove that ALL quatrains you mention ARE at least falsified by you and/or the White Power sites where you got your desinformation. Read on that subject: \"http://hubpages.com/hub/About-Nostradamus--Obama-and-the-AntiChrist\". You are saying the same thing as these White Power guys, so what are you then?
You\'re not even good in the falsifying business, Mister EdgarMetro. And if you were making a parody, a comedy, a mockumentary... Monty Python got at least the basic facts right, you know. So you\'re a lousy comedian too. You really ought to see Monty Python and the Holy Grail... Or even better: The Life of Brian!
Why is everyone so hung up on the fact that Obama is black. Let's remember that he is also white...but the bottom line is that what matters is in his heart. I agree with the concept that the world will see a change in 2012. That is obvious with global warming and globalization. By the way, who is to say the change will be bad? New technologies are providing a tremendous amount of good for the environment. Then let us consider the enlightenment that we as a global community are realizing. All I can say is that to have a closed mind condemns you to stagnation. I have a number of articles about globalization and environmental breakthroughs that are truly astounding.
Let us also remember that this planet is a living entity that is in constant change. The only real constant in life is change, otherwise it ceases to exist.
We all need to grow and change....just as in the case of our planet and all that is included.
Parks, go promote yourself somewhere else. If we wanted to read your articles we'd just click on your little old name. (That teminds me, I got a poem about orgies and sex I think you should all read, nobody asked me for it and it has no bearing on the conversation but you all should read it. Geesh...)The comments section of this article is much more interesting than the actual acticle. Good job, I'm definately stumbling it. Keep arguing, I'm going to come back and check up on you all. Good day.
#22 by edgar Nov 20, 2008
Okay Mr. Purple Slinky (very classy btw)
The mere fact that you have put this video on your little website and drawn all this attention to it proves that you aren\'t concerned about the video being \"dangerous\" or \"racist\" in any way.
For you to put it on here even though you are terrified that some moron is going to watch this video and go out and try to do something stupid to obama, african americans, texans, or whoever proves that you\'re really not concerned about the video being racist or dangerous. So what now, whats your point? some of the quatraints are incorrect and that makes me a racist?
I think you\'re the closet racist afraid to critisize anyone who might not be your skin color.I see now you wanted to draw some attention to your lonely little site. And with my video on here, i\'m sure you are experiencing record breaking traffic, for the 1st time in your yellow \"journalistic life\"..so please thank me.
If i may add, i now have come to grips on the reason for all your anger and resentment...you live in Brussels! I\'m sorry but i\'ve been, and it is by far the worst city in Europe. I truely feel sorry for you now.
It is evident that you are quite busy surfing these \"white power\" sites looking for info. I myself have never and would never visit any of that smut but you have chosen to pin me as a white supremecist..that is not worth a response anymore.
#23 by Ronald Nov 21, 2008
YOUR VIDEO IS RACIST AND YOU ARE FEAR MONGERING> YOU CAN"T JUSTIFY IT> YOU ARE A WORTHLESS AND IGNORANT HUMAN BEING> YOU DID THIS CUZ YOU WERE BORED? REALLY??? TERRIBLE EXCUSE!! PEOPLE LIKE YOU ARE DANGEROUS!!!NOT OUR PRESIDENT!!! YOUUUUUU!!!!!!!
#24 by edgar Nov 21, 2008
oooga boogaa!! i'm so dangerous. A two minute youtube video is so scary...give me a break.
Just because I haven't fallen hard for Obama-mania does not make me a racist. I think it all boils down to you're own insecurities.
#25 by Joanna Maharis Nov 21, 2008
I read your article and viewed you video with my aunt and my grandmother, and like myself, they found your article and video to be very enlightening, entertaining and comical. The three of us look forward with great anticipation to reading more of your work in the near future. My aunt wanted me to tell, thank you for the beautiful entertainment. It was a great joy for the three of us to read and to view. I'm going to read with them another of your articles just as soon as I'm through writing up these comments.
To Edgar: They have a \\\"Osama Obama Shotgun Pool\\\" now, in Maine. Just created out of boredom and for fun. Perfectly harmless, of course. So, how sick can you get, Mister EdgarMetro? - There is this other guy, Mister Arkwriter, who KNOWS Obama is the AntiChrist... just because his name rhymes with Osama! - It\\\'s all here: http://hubpages.com/hub/Dear-Mister-AntiChrist
Cool, I knew I wouldn't be diasappointed. Keep up the ranting and raving. I'm eagerly awaiting further developments.
#28 by Ronald Nov 22, 2008
You people disgust me. You truly disgust me. I\'m done. Enjoy making home movies for your white supremacist buddies. It obviously hasn\'t worked and it wont work. have a good day and I hope you grow up and find something less boring to do. Peace.
I don't think Ronald understands that it's not about race.
Ronald likes to use race as a cop out..Ronald is mad about a video that contradicts everything he has been fed for the last 2 years, and the only way he can express his anger is by calling me a racist and white supremecist.
That is sad, but you know whats even sadder..the fact that Ronald will go through his life always using race as a crutch. This shows he has missed the very message of Barack, the idea to stop that very way of thinking.
btw the video portrays bush as part of the mabus theory as well..
...and the teams seem to be pretty out numbered right now Schaller..
I don\\\'t think that you understand anything, edgar.
You don\\\'t understand it\\\'s about race, because you have used the same falsified \\\"facts\\\" as the racists do.
You don\\\'t understand you\\\'re on their side, because you\\\'re telling their story, because you\\\'re not telling the truth, because you\\\'re only falsifying so-called \\\"facts\\\", because your video is made of the same lousy fiction as their video\\\'s and you won\\\'t admit that.
Your video, edgar, contradicts absolutely nothing, because he is entirely based upon hoaxes and lies. How can a lie possibly contradict something?
You don\\\'t understand you\\\'re in the same league as those guys who think they can detect an \\\"Antichrist\\\" by counting the letters in a name and get with -,+,: and x \\\"666\\\" in the end.
You don\\\'t even have some kind of a \\\"theory\\\" of your own. You don\\\'t even have a completely stupid \\\"theory\\\". You only have some false \\\"facts\\\" copy/pasted from one of the countless White Power video\\\'s that appear on YouTube next to your own, because you\\\'re playing in their league, edgar: the league of the falsifyers, the liars, the cheaters, the haters who don\\\'t have any arguments, so they attack the person in stead of the theme he stands for. You\\\'ve attacked me personally (I don\\\'t mind), you do it now with Ronald, and I have not heard ONE SINGLE ARGUMENT from you. And why, edgar? Well, because your only \\\"argument\\\" is a video filled with lies. That\\\'s why.
BTW, I nominated you for \\\"The Greatest Obama Is AntiChrist LOL of the Year Contest\\\" (being a great researcher, you can go check it out for yourself on the HubPages). I\\\'ve found here on the web only one guy who has worked out something even more ridiculous than your video, and that\\\'s the guy who says Obama rhymes with Osama and that\\\'s why he must be the AntiChrist (there are 18 letters in his three names too, and 18/3 = 6 + 6 + 6, yeah, here we go again!).
#32 by ed Nov 23, 2008
So for you're logic to make sense...promoting and linking people to my "racist" video, as you are clearly doing here, constitutes you're involvement in publicizing and spreading all of my so called racist thoughts right...then simply take it down.
Just by scanning through the countless elementary articles you have written Bernauw, it shows that this very article has brought you the most reads and comments of all your sorry articles COMBINED!
If you want to jump on my band wagon for you're own benefit thats fine, but I laugh as I watch you and you're funny friends bumble around and get all riled up over a you tube video.
So you can continue with your mindless racist banter and keep spending ur time nominating me for whatever worthless contests you want. I know its boring in Brussels but I there must me SOMETHING else you can put your time to...
Oh and one last thing...I CHALLENGE you to take my video down. (which was put up without permission)
Lets see how many nerds come to your site without my awesome video!hehe
Regardless of the fact that the video is no longer available, I still thought the article to be very interesting. I've always liked the readings of Nostradamus, and in some ways, just thought of his writings as nothing more than that. It is funny how people can interpret readings of a man from centuries ago. I remember not too long ago listening on the radio how people here in Tucson were calling in and saying Obama was the Antichrist because he was 1. black, and 2. his name was Obama. WTF? Really people, have we nothing better to do than incite the end of the world, just because a black man will assume the presidency? History has been made, and great things can come from this man. Could it be more fear that he's black, then the fact that he's the so-called Antichrist? Excellent piece. If you can stir up the angst amongst readers, then in my book, you're on your way to becoming a good writer.
#38 by Mabus Dec 31, 2008
They said the world would end when we hit 2000 as well...there were survivalists digging holes, hording food, etc....
What happened? Nothing. Except maybe you had to get a new calendar.
The Mayan Calendar ends in 2012? Sure, it had to end sometime, it's only so big....
Common sense people, com'on!
#39 by Dreamfaster Dec 31, 2008
I don\'t understand why so many people are so worried about the Mayan calandar. Do the Mayans exist now? No. How can anyone get excited over so called predicions made by a group of people who survived for only about 300 years.
As for Nostradamus, I don\'t know a lot about which predictions were actualy his words and which were created by someone trying to get his 30 seconds of fame. I do know that what I have read can be interpreted in many ways, just like the bible. If someone decided to make one quatrain predict the end of the world, well they have way too much time on their hands.
#40 by Niall Robertson Jan 1, 2009
I thought this article was very comically written and made some very interesting reading. Well done! Its true, even the bible can be interpreted in hundreds of thousands of ways ..
Plz read my material! http://www.triond.com/users/niallrobertson
#41 by Jan Jan 1, 2009
Clearly the author is an Obama fan and loves the word idiot. Give it a break all politicians are crooks and cant be trusted anyway. Look at your last two governors lol give me a break.
#42 by reality Jan 1, 2009
Oh man, you know what? What Nostradamus should have said was something like, And I saw before me a a cube of light, and one by one the people of the great new world fell like idiots for the bullshit that hath come from it! duuh!
Good one. The idiocy of mankind is sometimes truly mindblowing. But hey, at least it's fun to laugh at--if you really think it's funny, that is...
#44 by Edgar Jan 3, 2009
I think that all the haters of this video, including the writer who should stick to writing diaries, need to just take a deep breathe and relax.
no where in the video does it say obama is the antichrist.and to set the record straight, the video is NOT made out of fear of anything. its made to get people like you who have nothing better to do with their time to get all riled up and excited about a youtube video.
Nobody has actually seen the documentary and nobody has a clue of what questions it askes and what conclusions in draws.
Nostradamus' words can be interpreted many different ways pertaining to many different times in history...so try not to get all upset because the video above is just one interpretation, you may not agree with it but thats the fun of nostradamus.
Hi Edgar! You're right, you don't say Obama = the Antichrist, you only make insinuations. But you're wrong about the "true message" of your video ("Nostradamus' words can be interpreted...") cause the quatrains in your vid are not written by Nostradamus or are falsified... and do I have to say it again who has made these falsifications?
#46 by D-Dog Jan 4, 2009
I am with Edgar. Just because he does not love Obama does not make him a racist. I don't care for him nor did I vote for him. However, I do not hate him.
#47 by reality Jan 4, 2009
Ok I was the one who made the people are falling for bullshit comment, but I have a serious question. Someone please tell me why this banter is even taking place? First of all to the believers, please show me where in one case that Nostradamus predicted anything with absolute clarity a event that has happened! I can see there are similarities in some so called predictions however anyone can make the same predictions. They are vague at best. Any reasonably intelligent person has the ability to make the same types of predictions. There is not one case where any so called prophet or seer has made a accurate, clear and detailed description of any major disaster or event BEFORE it happened. That is my opinion. To the non believers, If you do not believe in what someone else does that is your right. However because someone does not see things as you do does not leave them open to slanderous accusations of racism. If they are in fact racist, well that is still their right, it does not make it right but that is why we live in America.
#48 by reality Jan 4, 2009
By the way, one more thing. I was reading a earlier comment from someone called Mabus who said
"They said the world would end when we hit 2000 as well...there were survivalists digging holes, hording food, etc...."
That reminded me, Was there not some people who actually tried to predict the end of the world who claimed there was a comet that was going to destroy the earth coming at us but there was a space ship in it and right before it hit it was going to fly out and pick those people up? hahaha remember that? they were like living in a cave or something hahaha now that was some funny stuff! I remember , the leader said something like in order to go to the space ship you had to like commit suicide as it was flying by so the people actually did hahaha. What the hell people...wake up hahaha
To reality: it does not matter if you're a Nostradamus believer or a Nostradamus non-believer; it does not matter if Edgar has made a racist video or not; it does not matter if you're with Obama or against Obama.
That is NOT what my article is about.
My article is about the FACT that Edgar uses false or falsified Nostradamus quatrains to make his point. Nostradamus has never written some of the quatrains Edgar says he has, and other quatrains just are translated wrong to get a match (the French word for "earth" being translated as "world", for instance).
My article is about liars and cheaters, about Edgar's video being a FICTION... and not what Edgar says it is: a documentary based upon facts.
Interesting read, the article and the comments as well.
#51 by Edgar Jan 5, 2009
You can think whatever you want of the video i made, but i have read several of your articles bernauw that insult me personally and call me a racist, etc. i have never met you. There isnt an ounce of racism in the video and you need to get off lowering yourself to the race card to prove your point.
Though two of the quatraints were not written by nostradamus, it does not discredit the mission of the documentary which is to find out who mabus is..thats it.
so please stop bad mouthing me and leave your mindless opinion of it till after you see the doc.ty
Two of the quatrains are not written by Nostradamus, but you - together with a bunch of racists - say they are, and you still do in your video. Two other quatrains mentioned there are falsified in the same way as downright racists do to \"prove\" their point. You\'re telling the same lies as the White Power guys do on their sites, and you\'re selling their nasty fiction for facts. So, please tell me how I have to call you, Edgar, if I want to tell the truth without \"insulting you personally\".
BTW, on the \"bad mouthing\" topic... You really should read your own comments again.
#53 by Edgar Jan 6, 2009
If calling me a racist makes you fall asleep peacefully at night Bernauw then do your thing...
but you really do need to get a life and touch up your writing skills.
The very 1st comment on this article says it best...
You're very amusing and you keep amazing me... but you didn't answer my question: how should I call you? And instead of focusing on my bad English, you maybe could use a spell checker and write the name "Nostradamus" correctly?
But okay, let's stick to the facts. You already admitted that two Nostradamus quatrains are false, but that doesn't make the others true:
Q 97, C 4 goes like this: "At forty-five degrees the sky will burn,/Fire to approach the great new city." - But you copy/pasted this version: "At forty-five degrees the sky will burn from the World Centre./Fire to approach the great new city". You - or the falsificator you copy/pasted - invented the World Centre in this quatrain to get a match with 9/11 (and New York is not even at 45 degrees).
Q 87, C 1: "Earthshaking fire from the World Centre/will cause tremors around the New City." - Again you - or some other falsificator - invented "the World Centre" to get a match with 9/11. The French word for "world" is "monde" and Nostradamus is using the word "terre" here, and that means "earth". Nostradamus is not saying anything about a "World Centre", you - or the falsificators you copy/pasted - are using him and his work to get a message through.
Best Regards
(and sorry for my bad English & mouthing)
Patrick Bernauw
#55 by Edgar Jan 8, 2009
Your life is utterly useless...you are talking in circles and don't have a point.
